Sea Control 327 – To Rule the Waves with Bruce Jones

By Jared Samuelson

Bruce Jones joins the program to discuss the oceans, how they shape the world we live in, China’s rise, and great power relations. Bruce Jones is a Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution.

Download Sea Control 327 – To Rule the Waves with Bruce Jones


1. “To Rule the Waves – How Control of the World’s Oceans Shapes the Fate of the Superpowers,” by Bruce D. Jones, Scribner, 2021.
2. “The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger,” by Mark Levinson, Princeton University Press, 2008.
3. “British Warship Collides With Russian Submarine, UK Defense Ministry Confirms,” Radio Free Europe, January 7, 2022.

Jared Samuelson is Co-Host and Executive Producer of the Sea Control podcast. Contact him at

This episode was edited and produced by Marie Williams.

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