Sea Control 211 – Bursting A2/AD Bubbles with Robert Dalsjö and Michael Jonsson

By Jared Samuelson

Ever look at a map depicting Russian capabilities and see a never-ending expanse of range rings that seem prohibitive to “friendly” maneuver? In 2019, Robert Dalsjö, Christofer Berglund, Michael Jonsson published their study Bursting the Bubble? Russian A2/AD in the Baltic Sea Region explaining why those range rings are misleading and why. They quickly followed up with a 2020 compilation from several authors expanding on their work. In this episode, Dalsjö and Jonsson join Sea Control to discuss the genesis of their work, the response, and more!

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1. Bursting the Bubble? Russian A2/AD in the Baltic Sea Region, Robert Dalsjö, Christofer Berglund, Michael Jonsson, FOI, March 2019.

2. Beyond Bursting Bubbles: Understanding the Full Spectrum of the Russian A2/AD Threat and Identifying Strategies for Counteraction, Robert Dalsjö, and Michael Jonsson (editors), FOI, June 2020.

Jared Samuelson is the Executive Producer and co-host of the Sea Control Podcast. Contact him at

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